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June 25, 2009

Lies and Misdirection

Filed under: Sick and Tired — Trever Bierschbach @ 9:53 am

I find it unbelievably disheartening when the media on one side of the fence or the other decides to use lies and misdirection to get their point across.  This bothers me because studies have shown that the majority of people get their news and information from one source, and it is usually one that agrees with/panders to their views.  The source varies from person to person, but I bet if you ask your friends the majority of them watch one news channel, or one talk show, or one website, to get their view of the world around them.  I say it all the time, and I can’t seem to say it enough.  Educate yourselves!  Don’t get your information from one source, they are all vying for your attention.  Watch many, sift through the crap, do your own research, and stop catering to the same media that really only wants one thing, for you to watch.  Especially be wary of those that are unwilling to call their own to task.  If the media personality you are watching, listening to, or reading constantly beats on one side of the fence, that person does not have the moral integrity to be doing his job.  Use your heads, we all know that the majority of politicians in Washington are self-serving, sometimes lying, many times corrupt individuals that are more concerned with getting reelected than actual governance, and anyone in media that tells you different is lying to you.  A dark, poisonous example is Larry Gellman from the Huffington Post.  I commented on the post he made, but as of yet it hasn’t been accepted.  Now I could not link back to this post, so who knows how many people he has poisoned that won’t be able to see the facts, but in fairness I will provide all links to him, his paper, and his blog because I want my own readers to be able to get as much information as possible.  If I am going to be full of crap at least I want my own readers to be able to find that out with my help.

I am going to quote his entire post here, just to be fair, and then show you where he is wrong, lying, and just trying to spin things in favor of his opinion with misdirection.  The following post is not my words, or my opinion, until I note otherwise.

“Is it just me or does more and more of what we see and read in the media make no sense? Why do so many seemingly intelligent people keep repeating lies and distortions as though they were true? Why do those same people speak in the present or future tense about things that have already happened.? Why do “journalists” seek out responses and reactions to these distortions instead of just ignoring them or pointing out they are not true? I just don’t get it.

For example, I keep hearing concerns and warnings about President Obama’s socialist plan to redistribute the wealth in our country. But we know for a fact that has already happened.

Over the last eight years, we have witnessed the greatest redistribution of wealth in our country’s history. We saw unprecedented amounts moved from average investors and workers into the pockets of those who run companies and work on Wall Street. We have seen the Bush tax cuts tilt the playing field to reward the richest Americans at the expense of everyone else. Those aren’t opinions — those are facts.

Although I haven’t seen statistics, I am certain that we now have more Americans who earn more in a month than the average worker makes in a whole year than ever before. And yet, now that the horse is out of the barn, there is a huge outcry that Obama wants to redistribute the wealth. I just don’t get it.

Critics are also wringing their hands and screaming on a daily basis on the radio, Fox News, and CNBC, that the Obama government is taking over businesses, deciding how much money executives in private companies should make, and destroying the free market system that has served us so well over the years.

But wait a minute. That system didn’t serve us well at all. It brought us to the brink of economic meltdown. Last year the conservative free market Treasury secretary Henry Paulson gathered the heads of all the major banks in a room and ordered them to accept $125 billion in TARP money immediately. He told the country that without an immediate $800 billion government bailout, our whole world financial system would collapse.

This was LAST year, when Bush was still president. You remember Bush. He’s the guy who told us weekly that the economy was fundamentally sound right up until the minute that his Treasury secretary accurately told us we were on the verge of falling into the abyss.

Bush is the guy who spent more than a trillion on the Iraq war (including hundreds of millions in cash that were thrown off the back of trucks (to appease the Iraqi masses) and billions in no-bid contracts to his buddies and contributors from Blackwater, Halliburton, and others who have since been charged with ripping off the American people. He’s the guy who passed the prescription drug benefit with no discussion or apparent concern regarding how we would pay for it. He’s the guy who took a budget surplus and in eight years more than doubled the national debt to over than $10 trillion.

At no time during this bankrupting of our country during good economic times did the subject of how we were going to pay for all this ever come up in the Republican-controlled Congress or from the White House. Never. Instead the richest Americans got tax cuts and we were all told to go shopping and keep borrowing.

Now all of Bush’s former supporters and defenders have suddenly become fiscal conservatives and are screaming their outrage claiming that Obama wants to do what Bush and Cheney have already done — run up trillions in deficits and bury the country in debt. Only unlike Bush and Cheney, Obama has an excuse — the economy is in a death spiral. Politics aside, this criticism coming from the very people who created the problem seems to make no sense. I just don’t get it.

They claim that Obama wants to take over and run our banks and auto makers. But these banks and auto makers were broke and came to Washington on bended knee asking for life support. The leaders of these companies made hundreds of millions of dollars for themselves while they made stupid and greedy decisions that ran their companies (and our economy) into the ground and jeopardized the jobs of hundreds of thousands of their workers.

So Obama has come up with money to save the economy but now insists that the same people and practices that created this mess will not be allowed to continue on the taxpayer’s dime. He has never talked about putting conditions and restrictions on a successful company. If he was taking over and running Google or Apple or Procter and Gamble then his critics might have a point. But we’re talking about American corporate institutions that were destroyed by incompetent, greedy managers.

And for this, CNBC’s Larry Kudlow and the Fox News chorus scream out in harmony that our president is a socialist who is stifling free enterprise and ruining the system that made America great. It seems pretty clear that he is actually insisting that we change the approach that led the economy off a cliff. I just don’t get it.

Finally, we are now dealing with the election in Iran. Obama’s response has been measured, smart, and consistent according to most people including a broad range of conservative commentators. But the Right wing attack dogs have been relentlessly critical from the moment the election ended and it became clear that there were irregularities to the last few days when Iranian demonstrators have been shot in the street.

It has been striking to watch Republican lawmakers like Saxby Chambliss, John McCain, Lindsay Graham and others talk about how our president has a responsibility to to get very involved in the internal election process of another country where it appears there have been irregularities that caused the wrong person to win.

I’m old enough — and so are they — to remember our own presidential election of eight years ago. Many around the world believe that Bush’s brother, the Florida secretary of state, and a Republican Supreme Court stole the presidency of the United States from its rightful winner. Reasonable people can disagree about whether that actually happened but there is no doubt that there was at least the impression of impropriety.

How would these Republicans who are so critical of Obama have weighed in if the leaders of France, Germany, or Saudi Arabia tried to become actively involved in helping us sort out what happened? What if they questioned the accuracy of our results and the morality of our elected officials and said they could not sit quietly by and watch the will of the people overwhelmed by politics? It’s a rhetorical question. We all know the answer. And oh, by the way, I just don’t get it.

Obama responded perfectly in his news conference when he said that these critics have the luxury of shooting from the hip and saying whatever they want. He’s the only one who is President of the United States and has to think before he talks. As one commentator put it, “Obama is playing chess while the rest of these guys are playing checkers. He’s thinking ten moves down the road while they are thinking about today’s news cycle.”

I have only met Obama once and don’t know him well. He has made some mistakes and will surely make more. By the way, he has been sharply criticized by members of his own party and Left-leaning commentators like Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow, and Keith Olberman for several of his statements and positions. He has also been praised by those same people. That I get.

But I can’t understand the level and intensity of attacks that are being leveled at a man who, by all assessments, has surrounded himself with good people of both parties, who has brought our economy back from the brink of collapse, and who has three times as many Americans believing we are now on the right track as felt that way six months ago.

If there was an election coming up next month then it might make sense. But Obama is just a few months into a four year, no-cut contract. We are at war. He inherited an economy that was and still is a disaster. He was given the ball in the top of the ninth with his team behind 9-0 and told to go out and win the game. Is it fair to blame him for the loss if his team comes back to lose 9-7?

He’s going to need a lot of luck and all of our support but instead he has been greeted with a solid barrage of unfair criticism from people who claim to be patriotic and care about our country.”  –Larry Gellman, Huffington Post

Now, that seems to be a great supporting argument for why Obama is gonna change the world and is just getting a bad rap right?  Well, if you are like me you saw through it, and here are some of the places I found holes.  Bear with me as I quote some of this article again.  I want to be very thorough because I don’t want anyone to say I quoted out of context or changed anything for my own advantage.

“For example, I keep hearing concerns and warnings about President Obama’s socialist plan to redistribute the wealth in our country. But we know for a fact that has already happened.

Over the last eight years, we have witnessed the greatest redistribution of wealth in our country’s history. We saw unprecedented amounts moved from average investors and workers into the pockets of those who run companies and work on Wall Street. We have seen the Bush tax cuts tilt the playing field to reward the richest Americans at the expense of everyone else. Those aren’t opinions — those are facts.”

That is not what they are talking about when they say ‘redistribute the wealth’. The Obama administration supports increasing taxes on a very small percentage of the population that already pays the largest percentage of the tax burden in this country. This small percentage are also the people who create jobs, they are the ones that own businesses, and when more money is taken from them, they have to cut costs, which usually means jobs. By redistribute the wealth he means to take those taxes and create more welfare programs like universal health care.  This report out of the IRS actually shows that taxes on the wealthiest people increased during Bush’s term, so how is it again that they keep telling us that Bush rewarded his wealthy friends when the IRS shows that they paid more in 2006 than they did in previous years?

“Critics are also wringing their hands and screaming on a daily basis on the radio, Fox News, and CNBC, that the Obama government is taking over businesses, deciding how much money executives in private companies should make, and destroying the free market system that has served us so well over the years.”

Obama is giving more control of the way businesses are run to the Federal Reserve, a private entity that has no governmental oversight, and he has appointed a government official to be in charge of how much executives in private companies make.

“But wait a minute. That system didn’t serve us well at all. It brought us to the brink of economic meltdown. Last year the conservative free market Treasury secretary Henry Paulson gathered the heads of all the major banks in a room and ordered them to accept $125 billion in TARP money immediately. He told the country that without an immediate $800 billion government bailout, our whole world financial system would collapse.

This was LAST year, when Bush was still president. You remember Bush. He’s the guy who told us weekly that the economy was fundamentally sound right up until the minute that his Treasury secretary accurately told us we were on the verge of falling into the abyss.”

So, because Bush did it, it is alright to keep doing it? Obama signed another $700 billion stimulus package, and when asked if a third stimulus was needed he said ‘not yet’, yet usually means sometime in the future there will be. Those people on Fox and CNBC and many of others have been saying for years, even during Bush’s administration that government needs to let capitalism work. These statements have not been made during just this year, Glenn Beck is just one example. All during the Bush Administration, while Mr. Beck was on CNN he was calling for the government to get their hands out of business and let capitalism work. Beck is and always was a conservative, and is now on Fox News.

“Bush is the guy who spent more than a trillion on the Iraq war (including hundreds of millions in cash that were thrown off the back of trucks (to appease the Iraqi masses) and billions in no-bid contracts to his buddies and contributors from Blackwater, Halliburton, and others who have since been charged with ripping off the American people. He’s the guy who passed the prescription drug benefit with no discussion or apparent concern regarding how we would pay for it. He’s the guy who took a budget surplus and in eight years more than doubled the national debt to over than $10 trillion.”

The cost both wars combined is currently just over $872 billion, I know not a huge difference except when you note that mister Gellman says the Iraq war alone, but when you are trying to make a point, you should make a point to get your facts correct. Is this guy intentionally lying or just not paying attention.

“Now all of Bush’s former supporters and defenders have suddenly become fiscal conservatives and are screaming their outrage claiming that Obama wants to do what Bush and Cheney have already done — run up trillions in deficits and bury the country in debt. Only unlike Bush and Cheney, Obama has an excuse — the economy is in a death spiral. Politics aside, this criticism coming from the very people who created the problem seems to make no sense. I just don’t get it.”

Not every Obama detractor was a Bush supporter, again see Glenn Beck as an example. He pointed out many times that our problems started way before then, and continued on through the Bush administration. It is time for Liberals to stop supporting Obama by pointing fingers at Bush. Just because Bush was wrong does not make Obama right, they need to convince us why he is right. Most of us conservatives know Bush was wrong on many fronts, you aren’t going to convince us by repeating what we already know.

“And for this, CNBC’s Larry Kudlow and the Fox News chorus scream out in harmony that our president is a socialist who is stifling free enterprise and ruining the system that made America great. It seems pretty clear that he is actually insisting that we change the approach that led the economy off a cliff. I just don’t get it.”

Notice how he doesn’t deny that Obama is a socialist, he keeps saying that we need to do something different, is he saying that socialism is a good thing? Has he ever read, or seen anything from a socialist country? Sure the theory sounds good, but real world examples show it doesn’t work, and the people who suffer are the people themselves.

“Finally, we are now dealing with the election in Iran. Obama’s response has been measured, smart, and consistent according to most people including a broad range of conservative commentators. But the Right wing attack dogs have been relentlessly critical from the moment the election ended and it became clear that there were irregularities to the last few days when Iranian demonstrators have been shot in the street.

It has been striking to watch Republican lawmakers like Saxby Chambliss, John McCain, Lindsay Graham and others talk about how our president has a responsibility to to get very involved in the internal election process of another country where it appears there have been irregularities that caused the wrong person to win.”

I have never heard anyone in conservative media, or in the republican party say that we need to be directly involved in this issue. All they are saying is he needs to show more support for the protesters. He needs to denounce the actions of the Iranian government that is allowing the demonstrators to be shot in the street. He does not tell you some of the irregularities. Does he mention that the Iranian people turned out in record numbers, some 39+ million voters turned out, and voted on hand written ballots? Does he mention that those ballots were reportedly counted in 4 hours? 4 hours to count almost 40 million pieces of paper! Let’s say that you could count one ballot a second you could only count 14400 in one hour. It would take 2800 people to count all of those in 4 hours. It takes us more than 4 hours to get a total count in an election and we use electronic ballots! Not to mention that 30 of 200 polling places in Iran report more than 100% turnout, doesn’t that sound like some people voted more than once? It sounds like the Iranian people have a case, and here we are, the bright shining example of Democracy, asking the whole world to embrace human rights and freedom, and we kinda go ‘Well, you know, try not to hurt anyone.”

“But I can’t understand the level and intensity of attacks that are being leveled at a man who, by all assessments, has surrounded himself with good people of both parties, who has brought our economy back from the brink of collapse, and who has three times as many Americans believing we are now on the right track as felt that way six months ago.”

By all accounts the economy has not yet been brought back from the brink, and as for right track, some polls show that a majority, 51%, still think the country is on the wrong track, and that number has been growing steadily since Obama took office. I think we should give it time before the Democrats start patting Obama on the back for bringing us to the land of milk and honey.

Point I am trying to make here is this guy is no different that those he is complaining about. There are people on both sides of the fence that will spin facts, and at times outright lie to try and prove their point. Unfortunately the Liberal media shouts louder than everyone else so it is hard to tell the difference.

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3 Comments »

  1. Well, the comments section of the post I wrote about above has gotten fired up. It is amazing the number of people that shout about lies and hate in media, all the while using this article by Mister Gellman, which is full of lies and inaccuracies, to back up their argument. It is interesting to follow.

    Comment by disgruntledpatriot — June 25, 2009 @ 2:29 pm | Reply

  2. I visited and read the comments, but am not interested in getting involved there. Because we can have an amicable discussion, I must take issue with your statement that

    …being wealthy has no bearing on your contribution to society

    I would hope that you’d say the same about the lack of wealth. I am one of the very high earners and am saving furiously (hell, I don’t own a television, much less even have cable) in hopes of creating a foundation in order to offer scholarships. In this case, wealth is my bearing. Without that drive for profit (deemed as “greed” by many), I would never reach the point at which I could help other young people.

    I realize that you certainly (probably?) don’t hold disdain for wealthy people, but I get very annoyed by friends who make comments about my income. I drive a 2003 Hyundai and am skipping vacations and concerts to realize my dream. Money is not a bad thing. I have a boss who shares similar sentiments.

    Though, I must say that I agree with Ayn Rand and her views on altruism. I am prepared to abandon my goals in a volatile and/or hostile environment, and my labor’s efforts do not come without cost.

    Comment by Ike D — June 25, 2009 @ 11:25 pm | Reply

  3. You are totally right. I don’t hold disdain for anyone based on income. My point was that wealth or lack of it, in and of itself, has no bearing on how one contributes to society. It is what one does with that wealth, or how one with a lack of wealth still manages to find a way to be a contributing member of society, that determines your value. Capitalism works best when all members participate, in whatever small way they can. A free society works the same way, although I don’t think people should be required to help others, it would be nice to see more of it.

    Comment by disgruntledpatriot — June 26, 2009 @ 8:29 am | Reply


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