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June 29, 2009

Cap and Trade Bill: HR 2454 American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009

Filed under: Sick and Tired — Trever Bierschbach @ 8:25 am

In a blinding example of how our unbalanced legislative branch will ruin this country the ‘Cap and Tax’ bill passed in the house this past Friday.  Is it any coincidence that this bill was voted on the day after the President’s infomercial on health care?  Do you find it strange that they did it right before they go on vacation, and right before a holiday?  I say no, this was all intentional.  While we were all talking about health care they slipped this in, and they did it right before a break so they could avoid some of the criticism.  How many days in the year do these bozos actually work for us?  Well, that is another article for a different day.  I just find it frustrating that when you have a majority of republicans vote no, and even some democrats vote no, a bill can still pass.  You can see the example of this here, check out the pie charts showing the votes, I think these pie charts are going to become very familiar over the next four to (Gods help us) eight years.

This bill, looks all shiny and nice on the outside.  An example of America’s commitment to clean energy, and the environment, but the numbers just don’t add up.  There are a lot of percentages, and time lines in the bill, but bottom line they are calling for a 17% reduction in green house emission, of 2005 levels, by 2050.  Confusing, well let me put it this way then.  Climatologists most optimistic estimates say that this reduction will reduce global warming by, wait for it, .2 of a degree.  Yes folks that’s 2/10ths, less than one.  Do you even have a thermometer that works in tenths of a degree?  And that’s for 2050, how high is it supposed to get according to this ‘science’ they keep ramming down our throats as ‘conclusive’ and ‘indisputable’ despite the hundreds of scientists that dispute it!

How are they going to get this reduction done you might ask?  Well, there was a bill being proposed that would offer grants, investments, and other incentives to innovate.  This bill was thought up by those crazy republicans, you know the ones that can’t get anything passed even if ALL of them vote for it.  No that bill was ignored, not even presented to us, the people, the ones that government works for.  No, this bill that did pass will get it done through taxes.  Won’t that increase energy costs?  You betcha, I am no economist, but when businesses have to pay more to do business, they tend to raise prices.  See the bill will make businesses that produce carbon to pay a tax based on the amount of CO2 that they release, did you know you release CO2 by breathing by the way, wonder when that tax is coming.  Now these businesses, if they can’t meet the reduction goals buy 2012, can buy carbon offsets.  So, in effect they can pay a tax, or they can buy an offset, but either way pay money that they weren’t paying before.    According to Ben Lieberman, senior analyst for energy and environment in the Thomas A. Roe Institute for Economic Policies at The Heritage Foundation (wow what a title), this bill could cost the consumers plenty.  They expect an average annual increase of $436 the year the bill takes effect, 2012.  By 2035 we could see Electricity costs increase by 90%, Gasoline by 58%, and Natural gas by 55%.  Their estimate for a yearly energy cost for the average family in 2035 will be $20,000.  I don’t know about you, but .2 of a degree is expensive.

That is not the only impact they are expecting, the other is jobs.  Even counting the ‘green jobs’ this bill is supposed to create the economists expect 1, 145,000 jobs to be lost between 2012 and 2035.  The numbers just don’t add up folks.  Think of some other impacts.  What if a company can’t afford the tax or offset?  Can they stay open on hope and change?  How many businesses will go overseas?  We already have the highest corporate taxes in the world, and labor unions destroying American industry, adding another tax won’t make them want to stay here.  What about all the promise to increase local production of Gasoline so we can stop sucking the teat of the Middle East?  Do they really think they can convince more companies to come here and produce gasoline, ‘oh and by the way, remember how much it cost last year to do business in this country?  Yeah, it’s um, gonna cost more.’  We may not see every company leave the country, some just have to be here to do what they do, electric companies for example, but factories, refineries, manufacturers, where would it end.  I live near the headquarters for Caterpillar, and they have been moving work to Mexico and India at a slow trickle for the last few years.  Imagine when the government comes a calling, looking to take a piece of the pie.  If all this doesn’t sound crazy enough, think about this.  The eco-terrorists Greanpeace don’t even like this bill!

What can you do?  Well, the bill still has to pass the senate.  Call your representative, tell them how you feel, tell them you don’t want this to pass the way it is.  Finally, in 2010 balance the government and get rid of the bozoes that are killing this country.  The three branches of government are supposed to be balanced, I think that is why they called it ‘check and balances’.  It will never be balanced if a majority of the legislative branch is in love with the President, and will pretty much pass anything he thinks up.



  1. Disclaimer: I own stock in a wind power company.

    This issue has me struggling internally. On one hand, the United States desperately needs to reach a level of energy consumption that greatly reduces our dependence on foreign sources. I am very interested in alternative energy sources for both the global political implications as well as the technical/geeky/engineering problems that are associated – it’s just fun stuff. As for petroleum, I hold an unpopular opinion that we should not start using domestic sources at the moment. Instead, continue developing alternative sources while using foreign petroleum. As their fields dry, ours remain full, and – at some future time – we can pick up domestic production in addition to our (hopefully) advanced alternative sources. I call this the “Hit It and Quit It” energy and foreign policy.

    The problem is that this is not an “energy independence” bill by itself. Instead it is, as you have outlined, a crippling blow to many manufacturing sectors in this country. Any first year psychology class teaches that a positive reward system is always more effective than a system based upon punishment. I would be happy to support any system that offers tax reduction incentives to any company that voluntarily decides to be “greener”.

    As for action on my part, I called my Rep (asshole David Scott, GA-13) numerous times on Friday and sent faxes to all of his offices. Sadly, this is a guy who is nothing more than a lap dog for John Lewis (GA-5) and Nancy Pelosi.

    Take a moment to look at my district: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia%27s_13th_congressional_district

    I am near Vinings, way up in the top, east of Smyrna. Scott’s support mostly comes from the southern portion of the district, which is mostly black and low income. This contrasts sharply with the northern portion which is quite the opposite. I am convinced that there is not another district in the country so cleverly designed to keep a democrat in office. Those of us in the northern portion are generally ignored and not represented at all. In fact, in all of my calls, emails, faxes to his office I have never once received anything back. I’ve confronted him at town hall meetings, only to have his staff surround him in defense and make empty promises.

    Sorry for the rant. Like you, I’m fed up with these clowns yelling and waving their hands only for political expediency.

    Comment by Ike D — June 29, 2009 @ 12:03 pm | Reply

  2. Just to add, here are a couple of other posts from Boortz:



    Comment by Ike D — June 29, 2009 @ 12:17 pm | Reply

  3. I agree that we should find cleaner ways of producing energy, but not at the expense of our financial future, and not on the backs of the middle class who will be hit hardest by this new bill. They can’t even prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are the cause of global warming but they are willing to bankrupt us to fix it. I just wish a little common sense would show through in this, and unfortunately when the majority of this country wakes up to what is happening it will already be too late to stop it.

    Comment by disgruntledpatriot — June 29, 2009 @ 1:25 pm | Reply

  4. There is power at stake here and these fools will do anything to ensure that they are on the possessing end of it. We’ll sit by while countries that are not participating in the “greening” of industry progress beyond our current capabilities. China and India come to mind first, Mexico and Latin America in general as well.

    To clarify, anthropomorphic global warming is the farce. Global warming and cooling are natural cycles.

    Comment by Ike D — June 29, 2009 @ 3:50 pm | Reply

  5. More fun:

    Not content to tempt political fate by imposing huge carbon taxes on the American middle class, Democrats have added a provision which imposes stiff tariffs on our trading partners if they don’t adopt aggressive carbon restrictions of their own.


    Does this bring to mind anything at all in US history that has already been attempted and led to a breakdown in the entire economy?

    Comment by Ike D — June 29, 2009 @ 3:54 pm | Reply

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